I posted this news about the Mexican drug kingpin being shot dead on my facebook profile and would like to share an awesome debate/discussion I had with my fb friends about the drug business. Enjoy!
Josette (me): Oh WOW!!! Now that is some pretty AWESOME news! Thank you God!
Diana: There are more where he came from. No big dent in the drug business. Pablo Escobar was killed but cocaine still found its way everywhere. It's like royalty. The king dies and an heir, or other next in line, takes the throne. :(
Josette: @Diana, I know but at least one evil man has been taken off the face of the earth. We can at least take a moment to celebrate this ocassion. :)
Thomas: Good news. He was making Matamoros hell. Let's hope his successor shows a little restraint.
Josette: @Thomas, let's hope his successor is also eliminated. They are a sorry excuse for a human being causing so much death and destruction to humanity!
Thomas: It won't matter Josette, when the head is cut off, and new one grows in it's place. What should be desired is one less prone to extreme measures of violence.
Josette: @Thomas, not really because the drug trade will continue. You are saying their existence can be quelched as long as they are not violent. However, even if they are not outright firing weapons upon the human race, they are still destroying families and lives pushing drugs onto the population which ultimately leads to death in more ways than one.
Thomas: Josette, I beg to differ. They push no drugs. It is all supply side economics. If the demand wasn't there, they wouldn't be in business. Simple as that. It is estimated that they move over 700 tons of just pot into California a year. This is mass consumption. Not counting yayo and meth. Re. what I said, is that I hope his successor, who is already in control, reduces the violence, and returns the area to a state of normalcy. These 'kingpins' will exist as long as there is a demand from the states for contraband.
Josette: @Thomas, I too am going to have to respectfully disagree. It starts with them offering a product, which leads to tempetation, which leads to the buyer getting hooked that creates a perpetual demand.
Thomas: Chicken and egg.... The fact is if the demand wasn't there, there would be no cartels.
Josette: @Thomas, why do you think drug dealers target elementary schools? 1) Because an innocent naive child wouldn't know any better. It's usually given to these children in the form of tainted candy. 2) They want to get them hooked at an early age and have a client for life.
Josette: @Thomas, if a person has never been exposed to drugs there is no desire for it. However, if in the company of others who do drugs and get handed a joint, a pipe or a needle the "temptation" is there and out of peer pressure they try it once. The dealer knows that all it takes is one taste and the buyer will come back for more. The dealer creates the demand you are so adamant about.
Thomas: It is a self perpetuating cycle. I don't know about drug pushers or seller at elementary schools. Young kids hardly have the financial resources to maintain any addiction. I would think the primary demand from a socio-economic standpoint would be the middle and lower class for pot, and the upper middle class and above for alternative powders, due to their cost.
Thomas: Josette, your last paragraph refers to peer pressure. This is where the family unit is invaluable. The breakdown of the family is part and parcel of this overall paradigm.
Josette: @Thomas, "It is a self perpetuating cycle." There you have it. But what you neglect to take into account to make your case is the cycle must have a starting point and that point begins with the supplier/pusher. Like I said a person who has never been exposed to drugs would have no desire for it. There would be no temptation. It's not like sex. We have an innate (natural) desire need for sexual intercourse. We don't have an innate (natural) desire to take drugs. If the drug has never been ingested into the body, the body would not know to demand it. The body demands drugs because it has been introduced to them.
Thomas: Most do have an innate desire to escape from reality.... Possibly therein lies the conundrum ...
Diana: Very good debate. I feel it's all about supply and demand as thomas stated. without demand, there would be no need for supply. Let's also not forget about pharmaceutical companies. They are just as bad as these drug cartels, but because most are approved by the FDA, it's okay to sell and distribute. Your kid is hyper, you say? Here's some medication. Can't lose weight, you say? Here are some diet pills.
Josette: @Diane, ;) You just summed it up for me babe! Drug addiction starts with the supplier. There would be no demand for drugs if they were not available because there is no innate (natural) desire for them. Although because diseases like cancer and aids exist drugs are necessary to ease the pain of the illness a bit and hopefully cure the patient or extend their lives. However, recreational drugs are just that mind numbing like Thomas pointed out. But that escapism can be achieved "spiritually" through meditation where recreational drugs are not necessary. Meaning there are alternative natural ways to escape reality.
Diana: True. ;) Both sides have valid points. Again, very good debate. :)
Josette: @Diana, This is how I roll lol ;) Thanks for being a part of it. ♥
Josette: @Thomas, Thank you too for engaging me in this awesome debate. I thoroughly enjoyed it. :)
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