Worldpeace wrote:
Everyone who is profitting unfairly is guilty. I am not confident about the advisers Obama has. Most profit is predatory. If corporations would pay us what we need to live, they would get way more profits, but they are short-sighted. Social problems would decrease, education would improve, healthcare makes a more well, prosperous nation. The profit motive is what is destroying the world. All governments have corruption. America is the most corrupt as it exploits every other country that deals with it. Consider the IMF and The World Bank. These bodies set up bad loans so they can then extract massive interest payments from unwary countries as the citizens suffer even more. Please read this book: Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism". Google her and see videos. Also, Look into the U. of Chicago School of Economics. This is where the present way of operating started in earnest. I am sure that Obama knows this. He chose Lawrence Summers as a chief adviser. WE progressives were concerned about this as this man was a hit man for Clinton. Then see this book: "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins. These 2 books tell the tale of what has, is and will be done.
Princess Mononoke wrote:
Profit is not bad at all and neither is capitalism. Let's say you start a business of your own. You have capital (money) to invest and decide you want to invest in your business idea. Let's say you invest $50,000 of your personal money. Your main goal is earnings growth right and a return on your investment, right? Think about that for a moment. Your target is not to report a loss or break-even. You want to increase sales of goods or services in order to increase your earnings (net income) and hopefully start to see a profit!!! The more profit you make, the more you are able to expand your business which may result in hiring more employees. Everyone benefits ie; the owner, the customers/clients, the suppliers/vendors and the employees. Your business should operate with strong business values and ethical business pratices based on honesty, integrity and trust. This is what capitalism is based on. Selfishness, Greed and Corruption are what has infected capitalism and our government who supports this behavior. Corruption begets more corruption!
Everyone who is profitting unfairly is guilty. I am not confident about the advisers Obama has. Most profit is predatory. If corporations would pay us what we need to live, they would get way more profits, but they are short-sighted. Social problems would decrease, education would improve, healthcare makes a more well, prosperous nation. The profit motive is what is destroying the world. All governments have corruption. America is the most corrupt as it exploits every other country that deals with it. Consider the IMF and The World Bank. These bodies set up bad loans so they can then extract massive interest payments from unwary countries as the citizens suffer even more. Please read this book: Naomi Klein's "The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism". Google her and see videos. Also, Look into the U. of Chicago School of Economics. This is where the present way of operating started in earnest. I am sure that Obama knows this. He chose Lawrence Summers as a chief adviser. WE progressives were concerned about this as this man was a hit man for Clinton. Then see this book: "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" by John Perkins. These 2 books tell the tale of what has, is and will be done.
Princess Mononoke wrote:
Profit is not bad at all and neither is capitalism. Let's say you start a business of your own. You have capital (money) to invest and decide you want to invest in your business idea. Let's say you invest $50,000 of your personal money. Your main goal is earnings growth right and a return on your investment, right? Think about that for a moment. Your target is not to report a loss or break-even. You want to increase sales of goods or services in order to increase your earnings (net income) and hopefully start to see a profit!!! The more profit you make, the more you are able to expand your business which may result in hiring more employees. Everyone benefits ie; the owner, the customers/clients, the suppliers/vendors and the employees. Your business should operate with strong business values and ethical business pratices based on honesty, integrity and trust. This is what capitalism is based on. Selfishness, Greed and Corruption are what has infected capitalism and our government who supports this behavior. Corruption begets more corruption!
I would also like to add that President Obama has profited handsomely somewhere in the $millions off the sales of his two books. Is that wrong? No. In fact, many of those people who are telling you that Capitalism is wrong is also profiting handsomely because of it. That is something I want you to seriously think about.
Capitalism is much like sports. There will always be a competitor. You have to be committed, work hard and persevere through the tough times. The goal in sports since the beginning of time, has always been to garner (earn) first place and be the best! The same holds true with Capitalism. Capitalism can emcompass anything from the local neighborhood hot dog stand and barber shop to a multi billion dollar corporation.
The same is true for employees. Let's say at 20 years of age you start off earning $20,000 per year. You do not want to earn that figure for the rest of your life right? No. Your goal as you get older is to increase your income. So hopefully by the time you are 40 years old your income has more than doubled that amount. You are eager to get promoted in order to get a raise right? As you grow in experience and knowledge, you become more valuable to your employer. Thus, garnering you that promotion and raise!
Money is not evil. It's the love of money that is evil. How a person, a corporation or a government acquires that money is the important point. If they lie, cheat, steal and kill in order to obtain that money then without a question THAT IS WRONG!!! This is not my opinion, it is a UNIVERSAL PRINCIPLE. These kinds of persons, corporations and our government should be held accountable and punished to the full extent of the law. However, as we have all witness this past year every crook has basically gotten away with everything. They are all grinning ear to ear, waving their middle fingers at us all. What's to stop them from committing the same crimes all over again? NOTHING! Since when has illegal activities become legal or acceptable? Do we not stand for anything anymore?
Well regarding the social programs in America our government is responsible for allocating our taxpayer money to fund such programs. Our government would rather give themselves raises and payoff special interest groups so they can contribute our money towards their political campaigns. Then alternatively without SHAME cut the social service programs most of us count on and pay for through taxation. Therefore, the corruption is within. Regarding the healthcare insurance cos. many are NON-PROFIT CORPORATIONS.
Worldpeace wrote:
I agree on this. Please read the books I referenced in other post. It is an amazing book. This lady is a writer for The Nation and way up there in intellect. It was Bush who started the Wall Street bail-outs, one final robbery on his way out of Dodge City! Obama is continuing it.
Princess Mononoke wrote:
Yes you are right. However, you cannot forget that Obama while still a U.S. Senator and every other democrat in the Senate and Congress VOTED YES on ALL the Bush Bailouts....!!! That is a FACT not very many people want to remember and have conveniently forgotten....
The same is true for employees. Let's say at 20 years of age you start off earning $20,000 per year. You do not want to earn that figure for the rest of your life right? No. Your goal as you get older is to increase your income. So hopefully by the time you are 40 years old your income has more than doubled that amount. You are eager to get promoted in order to get a raise right? As you grow in experience and knowledge, you become more valuable to your employer. Thus, garnering you that promotion and raise!
Money is not evil. It's the love of money that is evil. How a person, a corporation or a government acquires that money is the important point. If they lie, cheat, steal and kill in order to obtain that money then without a question THAT IS WRONG!!! This is not my opinion, it is a UNIVERSAL PRINCIPLE. These kinds of persons, corporations and our government should be held accountable and punished to the full extent of the law. However, as we have all witness this past year every crook has basically gotten away with everything. They are all grinning ear to ear, waving their middle fingers at us all. What's to stop them from committing the same crimes all over again? NOTHING! Since when has illegal activities become legal or acceptable? Do we not stand for anything anymore?
Well regarding the social programs in America our government is responsible for allocating our taxpayer money to fund such programs. Our government would rather give themselves raises and payoff special interest groups so they can contribute our money towards their political campaigns. Then alternatively without SHAME cut the social service programs most of us count on and pay for through taxation. Therefore, the corruption is within. Regarding the healthcare insurance cos. many are NON-PROFIT CORPORATIONS.
Worldpeace wrote:
I agree on this. Please read the books I referenced in other post. It is an amazing book. This lady is a writer for The Nation and way up there in intellect. It was Bush who started the Wall Street bail-outs, one final robbery on his way out of Dodge City! Obama is continuing it.
Princess Mononoke wrote:
Yes you are right. However, you cannot forget that Obama while still a U.S. Senator and every other democrat in the Senate and Congress VOTED YES on ALL the Bush Bailouts....!!! That is a FACT not very many people want to remember and have conveniently forgotten....
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